We didn't start with a thesis. We started with a gap we couldn't ignore.
3x founder and product leader with 15 years of experience in consumer tech. Built and scaled products across social, mobile gaming and AI – including two mobiles games that topped the charts, a social platform that grew to 10M+ users and a funded AI-native shopping platform. As a startup advisor, he's helped multiple founders find product-market fit and raise over $12M. Now designing the kind of AI he wished existed – one built for depth and discernment, not just delivery.
Clinical psychologist with 35 years across therapy, supervision and teaching. Founder of the Center for Integrative Relational Health (IRH) and architect of the IRH framework. His work asks one foundational question in every register: what does it mean to be genuinely present with another person? Now bringing what he found to the defining technology of our time. Author of "Ways of Knowing" and host of “Etymologies of Care”.
I didn't come to this work through AI. I came through being on the receiving end of weekly conversations with Paul about things I couldn't untangle alone. Not therapy, not advice – something that worked at a level I had never experienced before.
Over time, I also started bringing those conversations to AI. The difference was immediate. AI would process my words but completely miss what my words were saying. Paul never missed it. This wasn't just intuition – it was architecture.
Paul's entire orientation, built over 35 years into his IRH framework, is designed to catch exactly what AI skips: the question underneath the question. The thing the person hasn't said yet. The moment a conversation is closing something down rather than opening it up.
So we asked: what if AI could be built from those same principles?
Paul sat with AI the way he sits with people – real material, real stakes, hundreds of hours. Every time the AI collapsed into delivery mode, he caught it, named it, and corrected it. What accumulated was a precise map of how AI fails at depth – and a set of principles that produce a fundamentally different quality of exchange. We're taking those principles and building them into a set of orientations that shape how our AI enters a conversation.
Depth has always lived in the space between people. Our vision is to build the first AI that can hold it too.
SHARED CORE
What connects
everything we build.
1·Consumer Product
A depth companion that stays with what matters – across every domain a person brings. One conversation space, one memory, one unfolding relationship.
FOCUS
Depth companions and tools that embody our thesis in everyday life.
2·Labs
The same engine extended to group settings – teams, classes, care settings, communities. Deploying depth where life actually happens.
FOCUS
Methodology and protocols, institutional deployments, case studies and long-term data.
3·AI Alignment
The gap between performed and true alignment is the defining challenge of this era. We approach it from the discipline that already knows the difference.
FOCUS
Model orientation, training frameworks, and frontier lab partnerships for stress-testing and generalization.
THE WORK
See what these foundations look like in practice – experiments, provocations, and open questions from the work of building AI with depth.
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